at which point, paul called me and i'm talking about the father, paul ciancia, the father contacted me on the cell phone again and his comment to me is chief, is this what i'm seeing, my son, is the shooter at l.a.x.? my reply to him was i'm being told that, paul, but i haven't confirmed it, i'll check into it and let you know. he was very emotionally upset and then obviously, things started to roll along and the fbi came down to pennsville and we continued with the investigation there. >> obviously the investigation is ongoing. do you think -- i know you've heard of suicide by cop, where somebody does something hoping that the cops will kill him because he or she doesn't want -- wants to be dead but doesn't want to do it to him or herself. i know it's asking you to speculate. do you think that's possible here, if he was talking about harming himself, then goes and does this? >> that's possible. i mean, like you said, i'm speculating on that. that's not part of my investigation. it could be anything. we were all wondering back in my department, you know, what was the beef with the tsa